Can Qui-Gon Speak to Vader in Kenobi? (Luke did it to Cade) - Star Wars Theory

In Kenobi, is it possible for Qui-Gon Jinn to reach out to Vader in a means of getting through to Anakin? Is it possible for a sith to even hear from a Jedi force ghost?
this has been done in legends when Luke Skywalker visited dark side turned Cade Skwalker, to troll him until he turned back to the light side of the force.

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  1. Hatuletoh

    Hatuletoh

    2 ditë më parë

    Albeit = 'ahl-BEE-it'

  2. Joey Figueroa

    Joey Figueroa

    4 ditë më parë

    Me who has loved Star Wars for years and just assumed Qui Gon DID speak to Anakin/Vader because he is a good father figure* Star Wars Theory: nah that's not what happened. Me: wh- what.. 😥

  3. Michael Papp

    Michael Papp

    9 ditë më parë

    I think qui Gon jinn would have realistically tried to communicate with Vader, it wasn't a priority for producers of the movies to show us but I think it would have been a great addition to the storyline/chain of events. And it wouldn't matter if this communication failed or succeeded it just needed to be in the story/movie

  4. Rock n Jock

    Rock n Jock

    15 ditë më parë

    No don’t want him to talk to Vader because then Obi-Wan’s death would have less of an impact on Vader

  5. Michael Flanders

    Michael Flanders

    16 ditë më parë

    Maybe he did not say anything because if he had then the sith would not have not been destroyed.

  6. Leif Coombes

    Leif Coombes

    17 ditë më parë

    hi yes he should have reached out to him and said beware of the dark side angry and more angry will get stronger which will lead him to the dark side and pain will come. he lost his way and when he killed all the jedi his place in the dark side. and when he faced obi wan and lost. that is were his angry growled and Vader was born very powerful in the dark side was he. but his son Luke saved him let go of your hate I feel conflicted in you. he vader said it is to late for me son. and in the end Vader gave his life for his son and took the full force of the dark side lighting. his son lives. he was right about him.

  7. NIKKO VALLEY

    NIKKO VALLEY

    19 ditë më parë

    Another banger❗

  8. Rachel Prighel

    Rachel Prighel

    19 ditë më parë

    Yes my master

  9. The_Force_Frog

    The_Force_Frog

    24 ditë më parë

    I'd like to believe Vader would kinda stonewall him. But it would be nice to see Vader doubt himself or what he's done just a bit, just enough to show that he knows what he's done, but the dark side is all he has left. Like if he were to try to justify his misdeeds to Qui-gon.

  10. Makayla Slater

    Makayla Slater

    27 ditë më parë

    I would like to see Quigon talk to Vader and Vader just go full on Vader and just shut him down for not being there for Anakin.

  11. artoholicguy

    artoholicguy

    27 ditë më parë

    I think they are keeping it secret about all of the cameos . When you tell the story of obi wan and Vader I think after Luke, Leia, and their new parents. There are those who were really close to them. If they want to explore obi wan's mind I believe they have to bring back qui gon and Satine. In the same way, they will have to show Padme for Vader's nightmares.

  12. zaidan hadi

    zaidan hadi

    28 ditë më parë

    so u are telling me that my man vader my MAIN man would turn back to the light if obi wan had no left vader to burn

  13. Andy Biglin

    Andy Biglin

    28 ditë më parë

    Qui-Gon Ginn does speak to Anakin/Vader. In the Revenge of the Sith when he goes to kill all the Tusken Raiders you hear his voice Say "Anakin. Anakin. No"

  14. RJ Cox

    RJ Cox

    28 ditë më parë

    if qui-gon speaks to vader. vader should have some kind of reaction both ways in a way

  15. Cam Buxton

    Cam Buxton

    28 ditë më parë

    ❤️wish he would.

  16. Stephen Mandelbaum

    Stephen Mandelbaum

    29 ditë më parë

    I don't know if this is far-fetched but what if the emperor was able to block outside sources from contacting Vader maybe he was aware that someone might try

  17. boattlebot boattlebot

    boattlebot boattlebot

    29 ditë më parë

    i could see qui-gon having the view that the force would decide his fate, or perhaps maybe qui--gon knew all along what was in store and saw it as a needed evil to balance the force. because at the end of episode 6 one could argue that ankin did indeed destroy the sith like the prophecy foretold by killing palpatine and then dyeing himself. and id love to see a scene or 500 of him and vader discussing such

  18. Disney Pin Traders

    Disney Pin Traders

    29 ditë më parë

    Yo could u do a what if Anakin was found as a baby?

  19. Rachel Prighel

    Rachel Prighel

    29 ditë më parë

    As you WISH my master

  20. Jorge Carbajal

    Jorge Carbajal

    29 ditë më parë

    2:18 If death sticks can do that, Obi-Wan made the right decision not to buy any from Elan Sleazebaggano, and mind trick him to rethink his life.

  21. Joseph Partridge

    Joseph Partridge

    Muaj më parë

    I personally believe either that he didn’t want to interfere and let the force have its will or 2 that palpatine was able to block any attempt he could have made to communicate with anikan

  22. yaarpenpowderman

    yaarpenpowderman

    Muaj më parë

    Is there any information about what (for lack of a better phrase) "what life is like" for people such an Qui Gon or Yoda who became part of the Force when they died?

  23. Keith Youngs

    Keith Youngs

    Muaj më parë

    What if Qui-Gon knew Anakin had needed to be Vader due to the profacy

  24. The new team 10 gaming with Tanya Paul

    The new team 10 gaming with Tanya Paul

    Muaj më parë

    I believe Qui gone Talk to Vader before he died trying to tell him to change back so you can be with me the force

  25. Tim Donovan

    Tim Donovan

    Muaj më parë

    An argument could be made that Vader might have heard the voice of Qui-gon in Return of the Jedi, just before throwing the emperor off of the bridge and rescuing Luke

  26. GALAXY17 GAMING

    GALAXY17 GAMING

    Muaj më parë

    Luke skywalker

  27. Louis Guy

    Louis Guy

    Muaj më parë

    I think vader in the kenobi series would sort of be like ben solo in the sequels in the way that he is a lot more emotional than angry at times. Like his anger isnt direct its just pure emotion.

  28. grayson dawson

    grayson dawson

    Muaj më parë

    Was it really his power to see into the future like I feel like it was Palp the hole time

  29. Spy The Dragon Master

    Spy The Dragon Master

    Muaj më parë

    What if Yoda took Luke to Dagobah when he was a baby and Obi Wan raised Leia as his own daughter?

  30. David Gallagher

    David Gallagher

    Muaj më parë

    Have u done what if dooku didn't join the dark side

  31. Adrian Rosa

    Adrian Rosa

    Muaj më parë

    If Qui-Gon reached out to Vader I think it would be absolutely amazing if they are really showed hatred and question where he was the whole time why didn’t he help him you betrayed me and you betrayed everything that I stood for really honing in on that blame and anger and hatred this is what I feel could secure your spot in the dark side

  32. JohnOffline

    JohnOffline

    Muaj më parë

    You should do what if Ezra never went off to face thrawn and chose a different path to defeating him

  33. Charlie Flak

    Charlie Flak

    Muaj më parë

    How come I can't buy the orange order 66 hat???

  34. The Rule Of TWO

    The Rule Of TWO

    Muaj më parë

    I think that Vader will be kinda receptive at first but then convince himself that Qui-Gon was the cause of all of this, because Vader always blames his problems on everyone else instead of taking the blame for it and so I think that’s when he will sit Qui-Gon out further pushing him to the dark side, to where we see him in Rogue One and A New Hope.

  35. Treywalk775

    Treywalk775

    Muaj më parë

    I have a what if idea it’s if Rey joined the emperor

  36. The Jedi Archives

    The Jedi Archives

    Muaj më parë

    Your focus determines your reality

  37. Ported Zombie515

    Ported Zombie515

    Muaj më parë

    Qui gon was killed too quickly!😫

  38. KD the Kitteh Mama

    KD the Kitteh Mama

    Muaj më parë

    A couple of months ago, Liam Neeson was a guest on the Late Late Show with James Corden. Corden asked him if he would appear in Kenobi. Neeson said he was interested, that he would have to read the script, and that no one had approached him yet. FYI. Again, this was a few months ago.

  39. Artin Azimi

    Artin Azimi

    Muaj më parë

    i think that is one issue i have with the prequels, they did not show anakin having any random supernatural dark side actions that would explain his future

  40. Wallace Lang

    Wallace Lang

    Muaj më parë

    I believe that if Qui-Gon Jinn as a Force ghost can speak to anyone else that it is more likely to Obi-Wan Ben Kenobi, for Anakin Skywalker became too shut off from the light side of the Force at the time that he became Darth Vader.

  41. Just a Man

    Just a Man

    Muaj më parë

    If they meet it would give new meaning to what Vader was thinking when Obi wan said, “I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine” Vader: *I’ve got an idea*

  42. Andrew Brown

    Andrew Brown

    Muaj më parë

    I think Vader is seeking out qui-gon through the force and Qui-gon is fleeing from him in order to sustain his consciousness in the living force. Vader would be seeking revenge for abandoning him like a child does when they lose a parent suddenly. It's part of grief. Vader would seek to crush Qui-gon out of misguided insecurity probably egged on by Sidious so Qui-gon is running away from Vader.

  43. S

    S

    Muaj më parë

    You have the best ideas and explain them so clearly

  44. William Wilson

    William Wilson

    Muaj më parë

    The force didn't tell qui Gon to reach out to Vader

  45. William Wilson

    William Wilson

    Muaj më parë

    Everything that happened and didn't happen was the will of the force.

  46. Meszaros

    Meszaros

    Muaj më parë

    If Liam doesn't want to do the job, just bribe him to use his likeness for a deepfake with impersonator.

  47. Logan Webb

    Logan Webb

    Muaj më parë

    Can you please do a video if anikian never betrayed the rebels

  48. Cody Gearhart

    Cody Gearhart

    Muaj më parë

    Absolutely wonderful theory! Would love to see this happen. I feel Kenobi will be such an emotional show and I’m ready for it. 🖤

  49. Kickapoo Ninja

    Kickapoo Ninja

    Muaj më parë

    This is kinda unrelated but still related to the Kenobi show, and I commented it on another video: I think they can work around Vader's quote to Obi-Wan in a New Hope. All Vader says to Kenobi is: "I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner, now I am the master." They could say that Vader believed himself to still be a "Learner" when they clash in the Kenobi show. And only after their fight, as he grows and learns more he considers himself a "Master" before their final duel in a New Hope. EDIT: a whole TEN YEARS before they meet again in a New Hope. I don't get why fans are gettin their panties in a bunch over this, lmao. I think this show is gonna be so badass. Their fight in the Kenobi show will let Obi-Wan see Vader's suit and maybe he uses that to his advantage to beat Vader or at least weaken him and escape their fight. Maybe Vader then upgrades his suit for their next inevitable meeting. If Obi-Wan beats Vader in a fight or even if he weakens Vader and escapes, it would jus be all the more reason for Vader to hate Kenobi and drive him to search even harder.

  50. Ben V

    Ben V

    Muaj më parë

    He HAS to!!!

  51. Martin Westher

    Martin Westher

    Muaj më parë

    Qui-Gon should be in Kenobi regardless if he speaks to Vader, we want and need to see how Obi-Wan learns how to become a force ghost, and they should show how he learns that.

  52. ginantsfan5

    ginantsfan5

    Muaj më parë

    " Obi-Wan have you trained the boy as I asked????"

  53. Kepler The

    Kepler The

    Muaj më parë

    Liam Neeson back as Qui Gon is something I have wanted to see for a long time, a long time.

  54. Nooa Malka

    Nooa Malka

    Muaj më parë

    Many people have done video about George's ex talking shit about sequels. Would love your opinion about it.

  55. Ben Y. Thomasian

    Ben Y. Thomasian

    Muaj më parë

    I think the concept of the force ghost was still "new" or at least new to this generation of Jedi and so I believe it took Qui-Gon a long time to learn how to communicate from beyond and that's why he never spoke to Anakin prior to him turning to the dark side. It was too late for Qui-Gon to reach out once he finally figured it out. Also Anakin as a little kid, he was still kind and innocent and wouldn't force choke or smash anything with his force abilities as a little guy.

  56. ECHO 013 WINTER

    ECHO 013 WINTER

    Muaj më parë

    Part of me likes to believe that the Qui-Gon redeems Vader ALpast series is canon and that Qui-Gon spoke to Vader during RotJ and guided him into besting his master and saving Luke. Another part of me likes to believe that Qui-Gon knew it was the will of the Force that Vader do what he did and knew to stay out of it. And Another part of me likes to believe Qui-Gon is a secret ally of Palpatine and a Sith Lord himself and everything was proceeding as they had foreseen. Qui-Gon: "Train the boy." Palpatine: "Okay I will DEW IT!" Qui-Gon: "He will bring balance." Palpatine: "Soon I will have a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful." Both: *Evil Laughter*

  57. S3VT // WSLVT

    S3VT // WSLVT

    Muaj më parë

    Always quality videos and content, @starwarstheory And a solid SW community leader and contributor. Just on the quick linguistics tip: The word "albeit" is pronounced "all-be-it" not "all-bite". :)

  58. Felipe soares

    Felipe soares

    Muaj më parë

    what if padmé was a sith follower and manipulated anakin ?

  59. Stephen Arseneau

    Stephen Arseneau

    Muaj më parë

    IF Qui GOn lived, I don't think Anakin would have turned.

  60. im jellis

    im jellis

    Muaj më parë

    I’d love to hear Qui Gon’s opinion about Vader. If he tries to reach out but gets ignored by Vader

  61. Anton Verminck

    Anton Verminck

    Muaj më parë

    just another fake rumor?

  62. im jellis

    im jellis

    Muaj më parë

    Albeit is pronounced “all be it”

  63. valhoundmom

    valhoundmom

    Muaj më parë

    Yet he flips back to the light side as soon as he sees his son threatened with death. I think Anakin was fighting to remain present for all those 20 years and need a future facing hope to pull him back.

  64. Kai Harpzz

    Kai Harpzz

    Muaj më parë

    I think he does try to contact Anakin but Anakin just cannot hear him, like he tries to speak to Anakin when he’s slaughtering the Sand Raiders, Yoda can hear him but Anakin can’t

  65. DarthSeid

    DarthSeid

    Muaj më parë

    He did say. No Anakin no. When he was layin out the Sand People.

  66. Paul Polanco

    Paul Polanco

    Muaj më parë

    I hope he does unless Disney was keeping Liam neeson casting a secret cause he wasn’t on the casting list when they released it

  67. Philip Hatch

    Philip Hatch

    Muaj më parë

    I think it didn’t happen because Qui Gon knew anakins future. (Luke bringing the good out of him)

  68. Fabien Fert

    Fabien Fert

    Muaj më parë

    Thanks for this vidéo

  69. Stephanie Janiczek’s Smuggler’s Cantina

    Stephanie Janiczek’s Smuggler’s Cantina

    Muaj më parë

    Liam Neeson isnt in the show. He was basically canceled by LFL for being honest about something he did as a young man.

  70. Ray Ray

    Ray Ray

    Muaj më parë

    Feels like hearing a sports fan talk about why his team lost and what “if” something would have happened differently then they would’ve won. Obi won (lol), little Ani whined his way to an “L”.

  71. Larry Moore

    Larry Moore

    Muaj më parë

    See into the future???, i thought Sidious implemented all those visions into anakin's mind the whole time, including his mother, as he knew anakin would slaughter them all, bringing him closer to the darkside..

    • Larry Moore

      Larry Moore

      Muaj më parë

      @Festo unfortunately yes, and when I looked deeper, your answer was the exact truth, so thanks for clearing that up for me..

    • Festo

      Festo

      Muaj më parë

      @Larry Moore So this is a case of you hearing something over and over until you believed it?

    • Larry Moore

      Larry Moore

      Muaj më parë

      @Festo I've heard it a number of times over the years, articles in such, that theory has been out there for a while, but apparently they're just theories that kind of made sense..if the sith can read minds, could they do more to a person's mind?, but if u google this theory, it'll easily up on different sites..

    • Festo

      Festo

      Muaj më parë

      @Larry Moore Where did you get Sidious made those visions? Somewhere online?

    • Larry Moore

      Larry Moore

      Muaj më parë

      @Festo ok, thats great to know, thanks alot..

  72. MC EITH davis

    MC EITH davis

    Muaj më parë

    QUI GON SAID WHEN U JOINT THE FORCE U SEE THE PAST AND FUTURE ALL AT ONE TIME HE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND WHEN IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN HE LIKE A WATCHER AT THIS PONIT

  73. Byron watson

    Byron watson

    Muaj më parë

    I think you covered this before with Qui-Gon Jinn. I don't believe he would speak to Vader\Anakin once he became one with the force. Being one with the force I would imagine Qui-Gon Jinn could see the unbalanced from the Jedi and the unbalanced from the Sith. This would Grant him the foresight to know that Anakin would bring balance both from the light side and the dark side to a neutral Galaxy with the use of the force. If we look at what's left over after a Return of the Jedi there is only a handful of people left in the Galaxy that even understand the force.

  74. Caleb Turton

    Caleb Turton

    Muaj më parë

    I want to see Vader try deathsticks to get rid of qui gon

  75. Jamie Stevens

    Jamie Stevens

    Muaj më parë

    Maybe that’s why he hasn’t spoken to Vader, because he feels that he is partly or fully to blame for all that has happened, he was adamant that Aniken be trained into the Jedi order. And when he died he failed him and ultimately the galaxy, in a larger perspective, as he wasn’t there to train and guide Aniken. He may also have given up trying, we know he tried in episode 2 when he killed the sand people, but it didn’t seem like Aniken heard him, maybe he just feels ashamed and hopeless.

  76. Austin Lee

    Austin Lee

    Muaj më parë

    I want him to show up and Vader go completely nuts takes his saber swings it everywhere trying to hit a ghost, making him exhausted with him yelling with tears, “Qui-Gon, why, this is all you’re fault” then Qui-Gon be like” you did this to yourself Anakin” or something like that you know

  77. Derek Wayne

    Derek Wayne

    Muaj më parë

    Sorry but the Last Jedi isn’t cannon

  78. Seismic Sabers

    Seismic Sabers

    Muaj më parë

    Why does theory hate obw 😂

  79. Rachel Prighel

    Rachel Prighel

    Muaj më parë

    As you WISH my master general skyguy sir

  80. Comy Lare

    Comy Lare

    Muaj më parë

    Are we overestimating Anakins bond with Qui Gon? Realistically they hardly knew eachother before he died and Anakin was a kid. Would he really consider Qui Gon a father figure who would have been able to influence him? Anakin even says Obi Wan is the closest thing to a father he's ever had.

  81. Just Lusy

    Just Lusy

    Muaj më parë

    I’ve got as much hope for Qui-Gon to show up in the Obi-Wan Kenobi show as for Anakin to show up in the Ahsoka show. It’d be really nice to see them interacting with their apprentices one last time. As long as they are not some sort of a goodbye scene like in the end of ROTJ and TROS because then it will be too much repetition. But yeah, … we’ll see. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  82. Resignd

    Resignd

    Muaj më parë

    Qui-Gon spoke to Anakin in episode in episode ii, when he was killing the sand people. “No Anakin, don’t!”

  83. FireBallZ24 Gaming.

    FireBallZ24 Gaming.

    Muaj më parë

    Without Qui-Gon, Episode 2 and 3 never would have happened. He probably blames himself for EVERYTHING.

  84. JolbyBoy

    JolbyBoy

    Muaj më parë

    You got any order 66 hats that are purple?

  85. Lewis Bull

    Lewis Bull

    Muaj më parë

    What if Qui-Gon had tried communicating with Anakin during order 66.

  86. TwilightAlfa

    TwilightAlfa

    Muaj më parë

    To see Anakin crushing a Droid or using the force to knock something off the shelf makes me think of Harry Potter before he knew he was a wizard

  87. Daniel Paquet

    Daniel Paquet

    Muaj më parë

    IDK man seems like they shoulda named the show Vader?

  88. Nick K

    Nick K

    Muaj më parë

    A simple "Im sorry" from Qui Gon would mean soo much and nothing else

  89. Rhyto

    Rhyto

    Muaj më parë

    Qui-Gon's presence in the series after his death has been a marvelous feature used to guide characters to progress towards enlightenment about The Force. His interaction with Yoda during the Clone Wars series was amazing in giving insight into becoming One with The Force after death. _Honestly it's given me questions as to how Qui-Gon learned this technique..._ In novels pertaining to Kenobi's time alone on Tatooine he has also appeared briefly to give glimmers of hope and insight during the rising age of the Empire. _While I haven't read enough novels on the matter, I'm sure others have much more insight and details on this at length._ Great Video! Loved pondering over this topic.

  90. Hulk Hogan

    Hulk Hogan

    Muaj më parë

    Kenobi had to stay under the radar for the sake of Lukes rise to end Vader, where Kenobi thought that Vader was lost. Kenobis purpose of doing "nothing" was to ensure Lukes hiding

  91. D B

    D B

    Muaj më parë

    Swt, you constantly speak of Anakins premonition ability, but you also agree those premonitions are from Palps, I believe Ani never had an ability, it was always Palps giving him those nightmares. That explains the whole timeline perfectly as opposed to what you said in this video about Ani not realizing why those bad things happen and their outcome. Recap….Ani never had premonition, it was always Palp feeding that info to him.

    • Festo

      Festo

      Muaj më parë

      Palpatine giving Anakin premonition doesn't make sense. If that's true, how do you explain Luke also able to see into the future in Empire Strikes Back?

  92. Justin Time

    Justin Time

    Muaj më parë

    He won't.

  93. SKYWALKER DFS

    SKYWALKER DFS

    Muaj më parë

    Qui-Gon knew that he could not interfear with Anakins destiny. Just like Kenobi told luke he could not interfear when confronting his father.

  94. Eighth leg of the Phantom Troupe

    Eighth leg of the Phantom Troupe

    Muaj më parë

    I get he was all about "following the will of the Force", but the fact that Qui-Gon never once spoke to Vader, or even at the least spoke to Anakin I think, absolutely is a plot hole. tbh, I think it sort of puts him in a bad light even, since he 100% could have helped Anakin understand some of his "dark" emotions. I'm not expecting it, but I certainly hope it does happen.

  95. Slick'N'Sleazy

    Slick'N'Sleazy

    Muaj më parë

    Sooooooo you just abandonned the Vader fan film? ITS BEEN 2 YEARS

  96. Shadow Squadron

    Shadow Squadron

    Muaj më parë

    Anakin did have interesting feats as a kid that he couldn't explain. The Podracing. Only human capable of doing it.

  97. Zed

    Zed

    Muaj më parë

    6:05 Well Rey knew how to use the Force no problem 🤣

  98. Mav359

    Mav359

    Muaj më parë

    In 'A New Hope' after Vader strikes down Obi-Wan hes suprised theres no body, that gives me the impression that at that point Anakin/Vader is still unaware of the living force & Force Ghosts. If thats the intererpetation then during the OW Series Qui-Gon hasnt spoken with Anakin, for me we need to see him speaking with Obi-Wan and him explainng he has tried but cant get through. Vader finding out that he has family in Luke & Leia and that the Emperor lied to him about Padme is the first crack in the dark sides hold over Anakin its too early for Qui-Gon to get through

  99. Rightin Thecenter

    Rightin Thecenter

    Muaj më parë

    If jinn didn’t speak with Vader that would be a major missed opportunity

  100. Natsirt666

    Natsirt666

    Muaj më parë

    How about a "What if Anakin had fallen/given in to the Dark Side before Qui-Gon found him"? Imagine Qui-Gon found this child, who was super powerful in the Force, yet flush with Dark Side Energy despite having literally no training at all. That would be bad ass.

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